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 Controversy Over Whether New Orleans Mayor Failed To Follow Hurricane Plan


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By Drog (Canada), Section United States of America
Posted on Mon Sep 05, 2005 at 08:44:45 AM PST

New Orleans' Mayor Ray Nagin is facing criticism for not using buses to evacuate citizens before Hurricane Katrina struck.

In the days leading up to Hurricane Katrina, Mayor Ray Nagin did not use hundreds of buses that were sitting in bus yards, some less than a mile from the Superdome, to evacuate citizens who were too poor to make their way out of the city. Louisiana Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco commented, "The buses could have saved an estimated 20,000 people if they had been used for emergency evacuations which President Bush had declared two days before Katrina hit." Thursday, after the storm, Blanco by executive order used school buses for evacuation.

Update [2005-9-6 12:43:18 by Drog]: Several paragraphs have been added to this story to reflect the fact that it is unclear whether Mayor Nagin knew these particular buses existed.

From Wikinews:

The 2000 edition of the southeast Louisiana evacuation plan on page 13, paragraph 5 states:


5. The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating.

There were however alternative emergency plans, including ones held by state Homeland Security offices, and it is unclear which one was being operated to.

The Superdome had been opened shortly before the storm as a shelter of last resort for those who had not evacuated. As FEMA observed at that time: "Most residents have evacuated the city and those left behind do not have transportation or have special needs." Roughly 150,000 people were not evacuated from the city. During the Hurricane Ivan evacuation 600,000 people failed to evacute the city.

According to WWLTV, during a news conference on Sunday before the hurricane struck, Mayor Nagin claimed he "could and would commandeer any property or vehicle it deemed necessary to provide safe shelter or transport for those in need". However widespread photos circulated appear to show unused school and privately owned busses left stranded in flood waters.

It is unclear whether Mayor Nagin knew these particular buses existed, since the Orleans Parish School Board is not under his jurisdiction and his office would not normally know the location of OPSB bus yards or be able to contact the drivers of those buses to place them into service. Normally it is the job of FEMA to coordinate between the various local jurisdictions such as the OPSB and the City of New Orleans in this case. That is, under the rules of prior hurricane responses, FEMA would ask all local jurisdictions for a list of resources under their control. Then FEMA would have taken a request from Nagin for buses, relayed it to the Orleans Parish School Board or other local jurisdictions which had buses, and at that point the OPSB would have provided the buses to Nagin. That coordination did not happen here, but it is unclear whether Nagin ever made such a request prior to the hurricane and after the hurricane they were underwater and useless.

However, if he had known about them, the declaration of a state of emergency on August 26 gave him the right under Louisiana law to commandeer them for the duration of the emergency. What is clear is that by waiting until August 28 to issue the evacuation order, the buses would have been able to make only one trip, since the "contraflow" scheme (which used both the incoming and outgoing lanes on all highways going out of New Orleans as outbound evacuation lanes in order to speed the evacuation) would have prevented them from returning before the hurricane hit. The failure to issue a timely evacuation order in effect made it physically impossible to evacuate the nursing homes, hospitals, and those without automobiles. 146 buses less than a mile from the Superdome Enlarge 146 buses less than a mile from the Superdome

In a radio interview on WWL-AM shortly after the hurricane, Mayor Nagin said, "I need 500 buses, man."

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before the storm hit (none / 0) (#1)
by apsmith (USA) on Tue Sep 06, 2005 at 12:41:37 AM PST

as I recall, the authorities were telling people who couldn't evacuate to gather to the superdome or in the high-rise hotels that would be safe from the immediate threat of flooding. And on Monday, before the levees broke, that seemed like the right move: there hadn't even been any flooding, many areas still had power, the pumps were still operating in places, etc. Then the flood came - yes, in hindsight it would have been a very good plan to at least evacuate those buses to higher ground. Oops.

The mayor made some mistakes; but a single city government doesn't have the resources to relocate a good fraction of its people at one time - that 20,000 is out of 1.5 million, at least 250,000 of whom would have needed it - i.e. even 500 buses would have left over 90% of the indigent population behind. Maybe in future most cities will keep on hand thousands of vehicles to ensure there are enough "lifeboats" for everyone, a lesson learned for seafaring from the Titanic. But it's hindsight at best to blame the mayor for not taking that step ahead of time.

Nagin is the key to a successful evacuation (none / 0) (#2)
by Rokkitsci (USA) on Tue Sep 06, 2005 at 07:46:41 AM PST

All plans - federal - state - and local - start with the local official taking the first initiative to protect his population. These plans all clearly state that the local official should use all means and assets at his disposal until they are "overwhelmed or exhausted." In speaking of flooding, these plans specifically mention the use of city buses to evacuate the population as soon as the threat is recognized.

Nobody is saying the Mayor could have averted the crisis all by himself. But he could have done SOMETHING. Every 60,000 souls he bused out would be 60,000 less that the feds had to go get with helicoptors from their roofs. He should have had these buses rolling northward on Saturday, Sunday at the latest, and should have been on the TV screaming for nearby cities to send their buses too.

BTW - the parish south of New Orleans DID evacuate their population - using school buses. There are very few dead bodies floating in that parish. And that is a rural parish with some redneck cajun as the prime official. He must have taken the time to read the plan that every official at every level has on their desk. The feds were not needed in that parish. I think the total population there was about 60,000 instead of 1.5 million - so there is a big difference in scale - and a big difference in available assets. They had correspondingly fewer buses. They had no city buses. But they had common sense, which trumps everything in real life.

PLUS - There is an interesting item on the news this morning. Apparantly Governor Blanco asked for 24 hours to "make a decision" on whether to accept federal assistance immediately.

Govenor Blanco has an IQ of around 80. She is too dumb to live without government assistance. She is a political hack with a name - nothing more. Usually, even a political hack has SOME intelligence - enough to know when they are making fools of themselves anyway. Apparantly Gov. Blanco is not even that gifted.

She needed 24 more hours to make a decision on whether to save the population of New Orleans or not to save them. That means she didn't have her decision-maker at her side when she was talking to Bush. In her limited capacity to understand reality, it was entirely possible that Bush was trying to "trap" her. She just didn't know what to believe. So - she needed 24 more hours to 'think about it.'

Is there no better illustration of (perhaps) criminal malfeasance and (at least) intolerable stupidity?

Blame Bush for not sending in the guys with the white coats immediately - she should have been instantly declared unfit and institutionalized. I will agree to that - he should have relieved her of her duty and taken over at that point.

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right vs. left ; alive vs. dead (none / 0) (#5)
by xmlles (USA) on Tue Sep 06, 2005 at 01:13:37 PM PST

Why do all of us on this board insist on making this disaster a political issue? This is not about the Democratic Mayor and Democratic Governor screwing up or the Republican President showing up late.
This is about a nation split in half and unable to come together to save ourselves. We -- all of us -- screwed up, and thousands of people died.
You want politics? Here's politics: The current administration has COMPLETELY divided this nation. We are a nation of left vs. right; religious vs. non-religious; rich vs. poor; black vs. white. Our bungled response to the disaster in New Orleans is nothing more than a symptom of this problem. The current president has repeatedly demonstrated that he is incapable of building an administration that is capable of representing all of the people and uniting the nation. It doesn't matter if he's a republican or a democrat; he's ineffective and now people are dying.
And, if your knee-jerk response is to somehow jump up and point blame at anyone other than the Commander-in-Chief, then you're part of the problem. If the team is losing, you fire the coach, plain and simple.

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Partisan Politics (none / 0) (#11)
by dtungsten (USA) on Wed Sep 07, 2005 at 02:48:34 AM PST

Why do all of us on this board insist on making this disaster a political issue?

Because it is a political forum, so we talk about the political aspects of it.  Even you have done so by blaming the President for the current governmental disarray.

We -- all of us -- screwed up

I would have to disagree.  The leadership screwed up.  It was the lack of leadership that made the situation so dire.  The rest of us, for the most part, were (and are) doing everything we could, whether performing search and rescue, law enforcement, donating to the Red Cross, and so on.

The current administration has COMPLETELY divided this nation.

Absolutely wrong.  The Democrats/Left have done this, by refusing to admit that George W. Bush could possibly do any good.  It is clear the nation was already split based on the popular results of the 2000 Presidential election.  Al Gore fueled the division personally by trying to litigate the election, and claiming that it was Bush who was stealing.  I don't care what you think happened, either.

Bush has never made anything an issue of "religious vs. non-religious; rich vs. poor; black vs. white."

I can name several people on the left who have done so, some of them consistently, and on the recent New Orleans tragedy.

That being said, the fact of the matter is that the tragedy was worsened by a failure of leadership on 3 levels: City, State, and Federal.

Remember though, there were Federal, State, and Local organizations present there as soon as the storm passed; however, they were simply not prepared for the magnitude of the disaster as it unfolded.  Three hundred fifty miles of coastal communities completely destroyed.  Forty per cent of the Coast Guard's helicopter fleet needed in New Orleans alone.  National Guard called up from about 40 states.  The press continually repeating that you cannot comprehend the scale, that the pictures did not do it justice.

However, by Wednesday, it should have been obvious to anyone having leadership authority that we needed major mobilization of security and rescue services (in addition to ones already there).

The President knew the scale then as he had flown over the region, and mentioned that it was going to take years to recover.  My questions are, why did it take 2 days after that for these people to start getting the help they needed?  Why did I only see/hear one pithy statement by the governor on Wednesday, and nothing from the mayor until Friday?  And most importantly, why did I not see any real leadership at all until Friday?

Despite the initial slowness to respond, the Bush administration is the only one doing the right thing at the moment, which is to assist people first (now that the operation is operational), and investigate later.

If the team is losing, you fire the coach, plain and simple.

Based on that analogy, you'd fire the Mayor.  I'd say that the Governor would be like the Manager and the President would be like the Owner.  Regardless you need to figure out why you are losing first, firing the coach won't help you win if your players are inept.

In this situation, there was clearly a lack of leadership, which would translate to federal, state, and local failures.  What infuriates me is that if I were the President or the Governor, I would have taken decisive action much sooner, and been much more visible doing it.  And all I had to do to find out what needed to be done was to watch the news, not wait for an inept underling to decide it was important enough to contact me.

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