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Concerning the original article: The person writes
that children accompany their parents door to door in what the religion calls field service.  Do you have a better way to instill Christianity and its meaning in the children?  Church volleyball and basket weaving classes do not teach the Bible.  Teaching children to be teachers is the best thing for them.

Why are non-JW and ex-JWs poking their noses in the lives of JW parents?

On the issue of children. Except for the few cases of child abuse, how else do JWs hurt thier children. Is it because they do not celebrate the holidays and birthdays? Or maybe its because thier children know the Bible at an early age? or maybe its because they teach that sex is only to be between married people? (of course you never see silenlambs giving 'voice' to the thousands of victims of other religious orginizations. nor do you see the many anti-jw groups teaching anything but hate for JWs)

normal social developmentin school? drugs, alcohol and sex-this is what you find in todays social environment. (what good parent wouldn't protect thier child from this?) Nothing precludes a JW child from going to secondary schools, having a career. (you will find many JWs who are profesionals with degrees)

Tolerence toward religions/orientations (gays)-read your sciptures.didn't Jesus condemn the pharasees and saducees? Didn't Paul agrue with those in rome for thier false worship. yes Jesus taught love but he also taught that you had to live your lives according to the commandments of God not the traditions or philosophies of men (ie. what mankind declares as enlightened ways of life)

There are about two news articles a week lately.The Watchtower leadership ADMITS (boast) of Children who have `kept their integrity to Jehovah' and died.

25% of transfusions are unwarranted meaning that 75% are potential life saving. None of the arguments about tainted blood,AIDS,diseases histoincompatibility etc, can apply to banking saving your OWN blood for elective surgery.

If you take autologous (use your own stored blood) you will be disfellowshipped shunned by your family and friends. The Watchtower forbids storing/transfusing your own blood too.What's their criteria? They say the blood can be returned to the body only if it stays in a closed circuit loop.If it breaks free of the body it becomes sacred and then must be `returned to God'.

What kind of `closed loop' "fruit loop logic" is that? WHERE in the Bible are these instructions? WHERE? It's DEADLY... men,women,babies are DYING over this.

Danny Haszard

http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/abstain.shtml

http://www.towertotruth.net/Articles/blood_transfusions.htm  Will you die for a lie?

More and more hospitals are providing Transfusion Free Medicine. ALL major surgeries have been performed around the world w/o transfusions. Yet there are doctors who refuse to treat them unless they agree to transfusions, then if they die they 'claim' it was because of the lack of a transfusion. ALL medical orginizations and publications, except the Red Cross (who makes millions on donated blood) has agreed that transfusion free proceedures are better for you.

What is Danny's REAL problem with JWs. He claims they make millions off of adherrents, but WHO is getting this money? no one, it is used for the preaching work, the leaders live in small apartments and do not drive fancy cars and get $90 per month. (yet many of other religions provide these things along with a large financial package, why doesn't he talk about this?)

Step-father's reign of terror
Norwich Evening News, UK - 1 hour ago TODAY 4-12-08
Will Carter, prosecuting, said Sangster, a Jehovah's Witness, now of The Maples, Dundee, Scotland, would make them stand arms outstretched with weights in ...

Step-father's reign of terror

12 April 2008 09:45

A step father hid behind the façade of a respectable religious man to subject his children to a "sinister" regime of physical and psychological terror that was kept secret for 20 years.

William Sangster's stepdaughter Tracey Edwards spoke publicly for the first time of her suffering at the hands of the "evil bully", who justified his abuse with passages from the Bible, and expressed her relief as he was jailed

Step-dad was an evil bully
LORNA MARSH

12 April 2008 10:03

A step father hid behind the façade of a respectable religious man to subject his children to a "sinister" regime of physical and psychological terror that was kept secret for 20 years.

William Sangster's stepdaughter Tracey Edwards spoke publicly for the first time of her suffering at the hands of the "evil bully", who justified his abuse with passages from the Bible, and expressed her relief as he was jailed.

Sangster, 53, pleaded guilty to two counts of child cruelty against Tracey and her brother Dale Edwards carried out at their Norwich home and dating back to the early 1980s when he met their now estranged mother.

Norwich Crown Court yesterday heard how he carried out a reign of terror for more than five years including a series of bizarre and brutal punishments accompanied by forcing the two youngsters to recite Bible verses which he claimed justified their ordeal.

Will Carter, prosecuting, said Sangster, a Jehovah's Witness, now of The Maples, Dundee, Scotland, would make them stand arms outstretched with weights in their hands for long lengths of time and beat them with a heavy knife sharpener if they faltered.

The 20-stone man flushed Dale's head down the toilet, thumped him round the head and in the face so hard his nose bled, and forced him to stay in his room at their house in Jamieson Place for up to 24 hours without food.

Dale was not even allowed out to go to the toilet during these ordeals and had to use a plant pot. He also had to wear hot clothing in summer and was made to walk five miles to school.

Sangster made both the children, aged 11 and 12 at the start of his regime, do the washing up within a certain time and for every minute they went over the limit he would give them a beating. He also forced them to eat hot, spicy food without any drinks.

During one incident he blamed them for putting the wrong coins in the electricity meter, calling them back from their grandmother's. Neither child knew what they were meant to have done but he beat Dale to make him admit it then beat him more for supposedly lying.

But he always stopped at 40, claiming that was the maximum the Bible allowed.

The natural child that Sangster and the children's mother had together was not subjected to any of the suffering meted out to the two stepchildren, the court heard.

Mr Carter said: "One of the least pleasant aspects of this case was the physical combined with the emotional abuse."

Michael Clare, mitigating, said that Sangster was in bad health and suffered conditions including arthritis and gout. He was also a full time carer for his wife who had recently had a heart attack.

He said that Sangster had decided to turn his life around in 1980 and turned to religion.

"He has been zealous indeed, some might say over zealous."

Judge Paul Downes sent him to jail for three months, the limit recommended by a medical report.

He said: "What you did to these children was insidious and sinister... you were a big man and they were very little children and you were in a position of trust to look after them.

"It varied from extreme physical abuse... to a sinister controlling force. You must have made their lives very miserable."

As Sangster was sent to jail Tracey wept and her natural father Dave Edwards said "yes".

Afterwards Mr Edwards said Sangster had been "lucky" to get the three-month sentence but that he was pleased he had been imprisoned for putting his daughter through such an ordeal.

"He was a bully, a pure evil bully whose whole life was nothing but lies. I didn't know anything about any of it obviously because he created this fear within them but then things started coming out and I knew Dale and Tracey had to do something about it so they could move on with their lives.

"I felt absolutely awful when I found out what had been going on. He broke Dale's nose three times and his nose bleed so much that it went right through the pillow and to the mattress and he just left him there."

Tracey, now 37, said: "It's just a relief and it means I can now look forward. There wasn't one thing that he did that stood out, it was all terrible. I don't know how a man could do that to children."

GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF THIS CULT NOW!!!!

Everyone who has been educated knows that real research is not done by linking to sites on-line run by groups of dubious background that attempt to deny the facts of history or even of modern research. So below I quote reference works that can be found on-line, can be purchased directly or in any large medical library.

What are the FACTS that can be clearly discerned and researched? Is Blood transfusion life saving and the only way to treat some diseases?

1.    People die every day whether they have blood or not. Thousands have died and overloaded health care systems worldwide because of tainted blood supplies.  Hepatitis C is a potentially debilitating liver disease for which there is no cure. Toronto's Globe and Mail, of January 31, 1998, comments "as many as 60,000 Canadians may have been infected with the virus through tainted blood, which means as many as 12,000 could die as a result of blood-borne hepatitis." Check in your own country, what are the statics for hepatitis in all of its `favors', HIV (both 1 & 2 and yet to be discovered varieties) complications and other immunological reactions.

2.    A few Jehovah's Witnesses have died, not thousands. But no can truly guarantee that blood would have saved their lives. Many sites highlight erroneous conclusions and even promote that blood would have saved a cancer victim whereas no one in the medical profession would promote such therapy.

3.    There are no guarantees for any surgery, procedure or therapy. Don't believe this? Check it yourself, the next time you have surgery or visit your family physician, ask your doctor what guarantees he gives for ANY procedures.

4.    New Inferno November 1, 2007 said "Studies have shown that patients receiving donated blood during a transfusion meant to restore oxygen to dying tissue run a 25% chance of having a heart attack and an 8% chance of dying within a month of the blood transfusion."

5.    Learn the history and why blood transfusion has become a tool of the medical profession, read "Blood: An Epic History of Medicine and Commerce" which you may find in a local library or can obtain on-line from Amazon. See who really benefits financially from this propaganda abut blood being life saving. It will also tell you why did it take so long for the blood-HIV connection to become publically well know.

6.     Peter Carolan, the senior officer of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, says: "Absolute guarantees on blood supplies can never be given. There will always be new infections for which at that moment there is no test."

7.    New Scientist magazine of April 28, 2008 has an article - Could Blood Transfusions cause harm? detailing the results proving the increased risk associated with such transfusions. In part it stated
 " A more recent study has found that in heart attack patients with haematocrits of over 25 per cent, a transfusion is associated with more than three times the risk of death or a second heart attack within 30 days compared with not having a transfusion (Journal of the American Medical Association, vol 292, p 1555).
For almost 9000 patients who had heart surgery in the UK between 1996 and 2003, receiving a red cell transfusion was associated with three times the risk of dying in the following year and an almost sixfold risk of dying within 30 days of surgery compared with not receiving one. Transfusions were also associated with more infections and higher incidences of stroke, heart attack and kidney failure Ð complications usually linked to a lack of oxygen in body tissues (Circulation, vol 116, p 2544). "

8.    If you like to look on-line, then instead of checking sites that you are not sure of, check out these MEDICAL sites about the use of blood:
·    http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/d/diseases_contagious_from_blood_transfusion/intro.htm
·    http://health.infoniac.com/index.php?page=post&id=28
·    http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news/Blood-Transfusion-May-Have-Contributed-Towards-Hepatitis-C -7455-1/
·    http://healthierhealth.blogspot.com/2007/06/read-between-lines-are-transfusions.html
·    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21912123-23289,00.html

Nothing wrong with having opinions, probably almost 7 billion of them in existance, but health related opinions should be based on facts that can be demonstrated, reported and duplicated.